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	<title>Comments on: Official word from Google: &#8220;Nothing new to share&#8221;</title>
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	<description>...for a safer, healthier, happier world.  :-)</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok - i asked on the Google Groups and they said the feed is typically updated about once a week, but that it was up to each transit agency to determine how often they wanted Google to poll/check for a new/updated feed.

So, this means if you find a mistake in your transit data - boom - you just update your zip file and it'll be reflected in the live Google Maps/Transit application soon. That's pretty cool.

I'm hoping the same could be true for any bicycle directions service - if we get it created. The only thing it seems we need to worry about is making the correct data available as soon/quickly as we can/want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok - i asked on the Google Groups and they said the feed is typically updated about once a week, but that it was up to each transit agency to determine how often they wanted Google to poll/check for a new/updated feed.</p>
<p>So, this means if you find a mistake in your transit data - boom - you just update your zip file and it&#8217;ll be reflected in the live Google Maps/Transit application soon. That&#8217;s pretty cool.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping the same could be true for any bicycle directions service - if we get it created. The only thing it seems we need to worry about is making the correct data available as soon/quickly as we can/want.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Smith</title>
		<link>http://googlemapsbikethere.org/2008/04/13/official-word-from-google-nothing-new-to-share/#comment-1371</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a good point, Derek - I'm hoping that through all of this, we can drastically reduce the time from 'problem found' to 'bike map update'.

So, the paper PDFs look really pretty when you lay them out on a table, but their usefulness to people - I just think it's not what it needs to be. And part of that, of course, is just the medium - it's difficult to update expensive paper maps.

But digital data is easy to update.

The Google Transit Feed Specification (GTFS) makes it easier (if not easy) for governments/municipalities/transportation systems to update the schedule/route data - all they need to do, as far as I understand it, is update their feed file. We should have the same thing available for bicycle routes.

http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html

I'm gonna look into this - see how often an update can/does happen for the GTFS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point, Derek - I&#8217;m hoping that through all of this, we can drastically reduce the time from &#8216;problem found&#8217; to &#8216;bike map update&#8217;.</p>
<p>So, the paper PDFs look really pretty when you lay them out on a table, but their usefulness to people - I just think it&#8217;s not what it needs to be. And part of that, of course, is just the medium - it&#8217;s difficult to update expensive paper maps.</p>
<p>But digital data is easy to update.</p>
<p>The Google Transit Feed Specification (GTFS) makes it easier (if not easy) for governments/municipalities/transportation systems to update the schedule/route data - all they need to do, as far as I understand it, is update their feed file. We should have the same thing available for bicycle routes.</p>
<p><a href="http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html');" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna look into this - see how often an update can/does happen for the GTFS.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://googlemapsbikethere.org/2008/04/13/official-word-from-google-nothing-new-to-share/#comment-1370</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"like making sure our local governments have valid/accurate/up-to-date bicycle route information available in digital format."

My city does, but my brand new navigation system doesn't. So I submitted a few corrections. Unfortunately, it's too late to make it into this year's map update, and maybe next year's also (Navteq seems to be extremely slow about updating their maps).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;like making sure our local governments have valid/accurate/up-to-date bicycle route information available in digital format.&#8221;</p>
<p>My city does, but my brand new navigation system doesn&#8217;t. So I submitted a few corrections. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s too late to make it into this year&#8217;s map update, and maybe next year&#8217;s also (Navteq seems to be extremely slow about updating their maps).</p>
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